Hit Chance Data Collection #2

[Palidino]

Since there's been a lot of doubt about whether or not our combat system is like OSRS, here's the time to collect a higher amount of data now that we have the players to do it. Original thread.

Make sure to use the accurate attack style. Take down as many hits as possible. The more hits, the more accurate it'll be to use as comparison data. Whatever you do, make sure you include to total hits you did for each style AND how many hits were successful. Also include both players levels!
For example, 50 out of 100 range hits were successful is the type of data I need from this.

What's important when testing on OSRS:

• Include both players combat skill levels (boosts included), and accuracy and defence bonuses used
• If against a monster, just include it's name and combat level (still include your own stats!)
• Include number of hits successful over total number of hits tested

The only thing I need is your player's stats and bonuses, along with your opponent's stats and bonuses. The original test was run to see if any combat style was given hidden boosts (for example, since ranged tends to be easier to max out the accuracy bonus, there was some debate about whether the accuracy was secretly nerfed in combat - confirmed it is not). If you do the test against a monster, simply include it's name and I can pull up it's stats myself.

TLDR
Below is for OSRS testing, not BattleScape testing.
Post your attack level and accuracy bonus
If against a player, include defense level/bonus and their attack level/bonus and defense level/bonus.
Post the number of hits successful and the total number of hits you did

[Shrekt mate]

Does this even matter for pvming aswell, because its obvious bosses have far too high defence compared to all the high tier gear we are using.

[wildyguy9]

sounds too complicated for any1 to do accurately, just increase the accuracy a bit and jobs a good ONE BRO

[Terror]

In this case, 50-100 hits is too small of a small size because you want your error to be as small as possible.

[Palidino]

sounds too complicated for any1 to do accurately, just increase the accuracy a bit and jobs a good ONE BRO

How so? If using melee against General Graardor for example:
Post your attack level and accuracy bonus
Post the number of hits successful and the total number of hits you did

Then I take that, run tests on my end, and compare to submitted OSRS results.

[Palidino]

In this case, 50-100 hits is too small of a small size because you want your error to be as small as possible.

I agree but the first time around the difference was so insignificant that I don't expect any submitted results to be off enough to matter from what our game produces.

[Iloi5ia89]

All the complaint threads are being made by RSPS players, the main teams who played this & OSRS have already said the combat is very similar. This is a waste of time & you're being stupid to listen to the RSPS players

The only explanation I can give for the PVM accuracy is that Jagex has a "Weakness" system for Specific NPC'S, for example dragons are weak to stab attacks. This gives stab attack styles vs them a certain accuracy increase on OSRS that players don't get on here.

In this case, 50-100 hits is too small of a small size because you want your error to be as small as possible.

I already did this with like 1.5k hits, combat is fine. RSPS players that haven't actually played OSRS for an extensive period complaining because they don't know what the actual games combat system is like.

[Palidino]

All the complaint threads are being made by RSPS players, the main teams who played this & OSRS have already said the combat is very similar. This is a waste of time & you're being stupid to listen to the RSPS players

I can run comparison tests to results submitted at about 30 seconds per entry lol, so the only time waste will be anyone going on OSRS to gather the data which I expect will match running the same test here. I just start my code which takes the both player/monsters stats, runs it through the combat hit chance code I use x amount of times, and outputs the total number of hits vs misses.

To your edit: Green dragons for example have 20 stab defense vs 40 for slash and crush. Only weakness system is that monsters don't have a global defense bonus against everything.

[Edmond]

All the complaint threads are being made by RSPS players, the main teams who played this & OSRS have already said the combat is very similar. This is a waste of time & you're being stupid to listen to the RSPS players

The only explanation I can give for the PVM accuracy is that Jagex has a "Weakness" system for Specific NPC'S, for example dragons are weak to stab attacks. This gives stab attack styles vs them a certain accuracy increase on OSRS that players don't get on here.

No he's not being stupid there's a large number of people complaining about it, multiple threads asking for a change

A lot of them claim also that they play 07, so here is an opportunity for them to help out. (Not saying you're wrong or right)

[London]

Regardless of all your opinions, Zilyana and Venenatis have ridiculous defence